Topic of discussion
: Basics of Sewing a Jacket
with Peggy Sagers
Chat Transcript
- 6/02/2002 provided by PatternReview.com
Deepika:
hello everyone. Peggy is going to join us shortly
[6/2/02 21:02:50] peggysagers:
Hello,
[6/2/02 21:03:06] Deepika: Hi Peggy.
[6/2/02 21:03:29] peggysagers:
According to this time, I am late
[6/2/02 21:03:33] Deepika: should
we start with the questions I emailed you peggy? I myself have lots of
questions for you.
[6/2/02 21:04:44] Deepika: After
bagging the lining, I have problems tacking down the two remaining corners
at the hem and facing. They usually bunch and wrinkle the jacket. Do you
have any advice?
[6/2/02 21:05:34] peggysagers:
Yes, the facing should lay flat without any seams turned under
[6/2/02 21:06:07] peggysagers:
the lining should be hemmed and shorter and the facing edge that is showing,
should be serged or finished.
[6/2/02 21:06:46] peggysagers:
There are several ways to do it, but I would suggest not bagging the lining.
[6/2/02 21:07:07] peggysagers:
If you bag the lining, the jacket has to be just perfect
[6/2/02 21:07:31] peggysagers:
I am not perfect, nor are my jackets and I don't want to know that at
the end.
[6/2/02 21:07:42] peggysagers:
but that is obviously up to all of you
[6/2/02 21:07:57] peggysagers:
I do bag my sleeve hems, that is very easy.
[6/2/02 21:07:45] Deepika: Peggy
I have never sewn a jacket before. I simply loved the jacket you wore
in the expo we met. Considering the fact that I have no experience with
jackets what should I look for in a pattern when I do decide to make one.
[6/2/02 21:08:24] peggysagers:
Well, it depends on if you want fit or no fit.
[6/2/02 21:08:44] peggysagers:
No fit, you really dont have to look for a lot
[6/2/02 21:09:02] Deepika: little
bit of fit
[6/2/02 21:09:04] peggysagers:
But if you want fit, then you should look for dart and dart placement
[6/2/02 21:09:37] peggysagers:
There should be two darts to accomodate the bust, and then some way to
curve in for the waist.
[6/2/02 21:10:00] peggysagers:
You should watch for armhole size and sleeve circumference
[6/2/02 21:10:24] peggysagers:
I love jackets, but I remember a time when I was very intimidated by them
[6/2/02 21:10:39] peggysagers:
They are very simple, just step by step
[6/2/02 21:11:02] peggysagers:
they should have a center back seam
[6/2/02 21:10:40] Deepika: should
I get a pattern especially designed for petites then?
[6/2/02 21:11:41] peggysagers:
you don't need a pattern designed for petites, just shorten an existing
pattern that you like
[6/2/02 21:10:49] Andi: What do
you mean "2"darts for the bust...the one at the side seam and the other
???
[6/2/02 21:12:06] peggysagers:
There should be two darts somewhere in the upper bodice
[6/2/02 21:12:35] peggysagers:
Under the lapel and the waist dart are the two we use alot
[6/2/02 21:12:31] Deepika: oh you
mean horizontal bust darts?
[6/2/02 21:13:12] peggysagers:
Well, they don't have to be horizontal, they are usually moved to give
the effect of a dart but without being horizontal
[6/2/02 21:13:50] peggysagers:
If they are horizontal everyone sees them, if they are under a lapel,
they do the same thing, but no one can see them
[6/2/02 21:14:03] peggysagers:
That's the goal in great design
[6/2/02 21:13:46] Andi: would you
include princess line bodice, since that is like a dart?
[6/2/02 21:14:37] peggysagers:
Princess line is a dart, it is the horizontal dart moved up to the armhole
or shoulder
[6/2/02 21:16:43] WandaJ: What
do you believe are the key elements of making a 'good' fitting jacket?
[6/2/02 21:18:36] peggysagers:
A good fitting jacket consists of length, depth and circumference that
match me, to include the amount of ease I like to be able to move the
amount I like to.
[6/2/02 21:14:11] Deepika: what
type of lining fabric would you recommend if I am making a jacket from
linen or other cotton fabric.
[6/2/02 21:15:24] peggysagers:
I have no recommendations on lining. It needs to slip, that is the purpose
and to make it look good cosmetically. Other than that, it does not matter.
[6/2/02 21:15:45] peggysagers:
Your budget and your personality decide what goes inside for lining
[6/2/02 21:16:32] peggysagers:
I do recommend some simple things when sewing a jacket.
[6/2/02 21:16:05] sarahsews: What
fabrics are the easiest for a beginner to make a jacket from?
[6/2/02 21:16:50] peggysagers:
easy fabrics would include wool of any weight
[6/2/02 21:17:27] peggysagers:
Silk, non slip types, such as raw silk.
[6/2/02 21:17:44] peggysagers:
I would never use poly, no matter how desperate I was
[6/2/02 21:17:52] peggysagers:
Poly is bad for a jacket
[6/2/02 21:18:18] Deepika: is that
lining fabric you are talking about?
[6/2/02 21:19:09] peggysagers:
I don't care if you use poly for a lining, but not for the outer shell.
I hate poly for the outside shell.
[6/2/02 21:19:48] ArleneBurns:
Right on, Peggy
[6/2/02 21:20:10] peggysagers:
If you want to economize, use linen or cotton, just not poly, I don't
think that is my personality, it is from working with them. They just
don't steam, they melt.
[6/2/02 21:20:30] Andi: You don't
like it b/c you cant press/shape it?
[6/2/02 21:20:36] sarahsews: Do
you recommend using sew-in or fusible interfacings?
[6/2/02 21:20:40] WandaJ: Peggy,
I'm so glad that someone else, particularly, of your calibar is saying
"I hate poly..." I do too and cannot understand why we are seeing more
of it.
[6/2/02 21:23:24] peggysagers:
You see poly in the marketplace because it is inexpensive, and lots of
uneducated people buy it.
[6/2/02 21:21:08] Debbie: Wool
or Raw silk are great jacket shells. If I am going to all the work of
fitting and making a jacket I want it to be great looking
[6/2/02 21:20:53] Deepika: but
if I use cotton for lining its not going to slip like the lining should.
[6/2/02 21:21:30] peggysagers:
that's right, it doesn't take on the personality of the new jacket, it
stays flat.
[6/2/02 21:21:55] peggysagers:
I only use fusible interfacings, besides tie interfacing, that is a sew
in to the sleeve
[6/2/02 21:22:08] WandaJ: Try Ambiance
for the lining. It breathes and is a very reasonable price and, it slips
on nicely.
[6/2/02 21:22:30] peggysagers:
There are a million beautiful wools out there, that can be worn year round.
[6/2/02 21:23:00] peggysagers:
They are light and wonderful to work with.
[6/2/02 21:23:00] Andi: How do
you feel about lycra blends for jackets?
[6/2/02 21:23:49] peggysagers:
Lycra blends are great and you are seeing them everywhere
[6/2/02 21:24:30] peggysagers:
I buy fabric from New York and alot of it has lycra blends in it or it
is woven to stretch a little
[6/2/02 21:23:00] Carrie: Can you
say more about the tie interfacing?
[6/2/02 21:23:01] WandaJ: Please
tell us more about tie interfacting that is a sew in to the sleeve; especially
the later part.
[6/2/02 21:25:12] peggysagers:
The tie interfacing replaces the two rows of basting that many sewers
do to the sleeve before setting it in.
[6/2/02 21:26:01] peggysagers:
Basically, you take a bias piece of tie interfacing, and pull it as you
baste from notch to notch around the sleeve cap
[6/2/02 21:26:39] WandaJ: Does
the tie interfacing go just into the sleeve head or cap or does it go
the length and circumference of the whole sleeve.?
[6/2/02 21:26:58] peggysagers:
You baste on the stitch line as you are pulling the tie interfacing. Once
you have stitched from notch to notch, then release the bias, the sleeve
cap is eased up. NO gathers, just eased.
[6/2/02 21:27:00] WandaJ: Ok. You
have answered my question.
[6/2/02 21:27:13] peggysagers:
Then the tie interfacing becomes the sleeve head.
[6/2/02 21:27:35] Debbie: What
a great tip. I have all of your patterns is that technique in the patterns.
[6/2/02 21:25:39] Rayann: Peggy,
is there any fabric that would make a knock-out suit jacket for summer,
and not require a lining but still look great?
[6/2/02 21:28:06] peggysagers:
I just made several new suits for summer and I think I would line everything/
I just like lining and I like the way it holds the facings in place.
[6/2/02 21:28:12] ArleneBurns:
I like that! This is a great tip. Thank you.
[6/2/02 21:28:15] WandaJ: What
is the depth of the bias strip and is it a single layer or double?
[6/2/02 21:28:47] Rayann: Any suggestion
where to purchase tie interfacing in an area where we don't have good
fabric stores?
[6/2/02 21:29:13] peggysagers:
That method is in our patterns, once you do it, you would not do anything
else, it is so very easy. The sleeve looks terrific. It is also in the
video Tips and Techniques, many have that.
[6/2/02 21:29:55] ArleneBurns:
I'm quickly become a disciple, Peggy
[6/2/02 21:30:06] peggysagers:
the bias strip should be about 20" long and 1" wide. Single layer until
you press out the seams into the sleeve after setting in the sleeve, then
it becomes double layer.
[6/2/02 21:30:41] peggysagers:
When sewing in the sleeve, the sleeve should be down against the machine,
it is bigger and the feed dog will help pull it through
[6/2/02 21:31:25] peggysagers:
Where to purchase, I don't know, but I carry it for that reason, if people
have a hard time finding it, check the joanns' of the world. I am not
sure
[6/2/02 21:30:31] WandaJ: How do
you feel about using shoulder pads with a built in cap? I used them once
and absolutely would love to use them again for all set-in sleeves.
[6/2/02 21:32:03] peggysagers:
I don't care for the built in cap, but that is just a personal taste,
I like the straight edge better, If you like the look, I would stick with
it.
[6/2/02 21:32:28] WandaJ: The Joann's
near me carries it so the others may to it's one of the Armo products.
[6/2/02 21:33:11] peggysagers:
If you are using a nice fabric, the armo is kinda cheap in quality, but
will work
[6/2/02 21:33:21] Rayann: I'd forgotten
the tie interfacing is on your order blank. Thanks. Will just order from
you.
[6/2/02 21:33:40] WandaJ: I liked
the built in cap because with the sleeve top there is no drop whatsoever.
[6/2/02 21:32:46] Carrie: I've
been dreaming of your "Armani" style jacket since seeing it at an expo.
Is it a very difficult pattern?
[6/2/02 21:34:14] peggysagers:
No , the armani jacket is very easy to construct, no set in sleeves no
notch lapel, we did it just for those who are intimidated by the normal
jacket, we thought this would be a good go between
[6/2/02 21:34:39] Deepika: which
pattern is this?
[6/2/02 21:35:07] peggysagers:
#1600 Betsy's jacket
[6/2/02 21:34:47] peggysagers:
What do you mean with the sleeve top, there is no drop?
[6/2/02 21:35:44] WandaJ: I mean
where the seam of the sleeve is connected to the shoulder. I've often
had this portion to droop even with a cap and sleeve head.
[6/2/02 21:35:55] peggysagers:
A customer in Phoenix, loaned me her G. Armani jacket and we sorta duplicated
it real close
[6/2/02 21:35:07] Deepika: Another
questions from one of our members: I'm in the market for a new iron for
my sewing room. What features work best with your methods? Do you prefer
a steam generator or gravity feed iron? Any particular brands?
[6/2/02 21:36:28] peggysagers:
I use a rowenta steam generator and I absolutely love it.
[6/2/02 21:37:45] peggysagers:
I was given this to use by Rowenta and left it in the box for six months
becuase I didn't have time to read the directions, what a mistake, Ilove
that thing!!!! My product is much better because of it. I take it to all
my week long seminars.
[6/2/02 21:39:45] peggysagers:
I don't think the brand matters, steam is what matters
[6/2/02 21:36:41] Rayann: Anyone
else tried the shoulder pad with built-in cap? I haven't heard of it?
[6/2/02 21:39:12] peggysagers:
If the sleeve is too wide, it would probably look better to narrow the
sleeve. If you measure your favorite jacket or one at the store that you
like, from shoulder seam to shoulder seam to find out the width you like,
then you can duplicate it on your pattern
[6/2/02 21:40:18] WandaJ: Thanks.
I recently made a jacket that I just love the fit. I will go back and
get measurements from it.
[6/2/02 21:40:53] peggysagers:
Measure the width of the shoulders, the size of the armhole, the circumference
of the sleeve, etc.
[6/2/02 21:41:17] peggysagers:
Those are key fitting points that people don't realize.
[6/2/02 21:41:32] peggysagers:
Center back seam gives mobility.
[6/2/02 21:41:41] WandaJ: Back
to darts. Is there another method to get a good fit through the chest
and bust area other than adding a dart for full-busted women?
[6/2/02 21:42:00] peggysagers:
Hum, like what
[6/2/02 21:42:17] peggysagers:
Darts can be converted to yolks
[6/2/02 21:42:35] peggysagers:
You can do gathers, but I would not do jackets with gathers
[6/2/02 21:42:51] peggysagers:
I am just wondering if you have something in mind?
[6/2/02 21:43:14] peggysagers:
The advantage of darts is that they fit and lay smooth and look great
[6/2/02 21:43:31] peggysagers:
They change the angles of the garment as our bodies change
[6/2/02 21:44:26] peggysagers:
Darts are great, the bigger the bust, the more you need them
[6/2/02 21:44:45] ArleneBurns:
Darts were always included in almost every garment before mass manufacturing
took them away.
[6/2/02 21:44:11] Carrie: How would
you solve fitting a tight upper back?
[6/2/02 21:45:19] peggysagers:
The center back seam should not be straight. If you look at expensive
jackets, the center back seam goes out at the fullness of the back, to
give mobility
[6/2/02 21:45:10] Ann: Peggy, how
far away can you let a dart end from a prominent point, ie the bust, without
having "arrows" point to the largest part of the body?
[6/2/02 21:45:55] peggysagers:
A fitting dart has to be within two inches of the bust point
[6/2/02 21:46:44] Ann: I think
I read darts end about an inch from the bust, but how much can you back
them off without losing their wonderful fitting effect?
[6/2/02 21:47:01] nanflan: Peggy,
could you provide some more detail about the under the lapel dart?
[6/2/02 21:47:08] Ann: Thanks!
[6/2/02 21:47:11] peggysagers:
That is quite a ways away. but sew darts from the point , that is where
people will see them.
[6/2/02 21:46:37] WandaJ: For a
better fit if one is using a pattern without a center back seam would
you say it is ok to add one before cutting?
[6/2/02 21:47:35] peggysagers:
I would definately add a center back seam.
[6/2/02 21:48:21] Ann: Sorry, how
do you sew "from the point"?
[6/2/02 21:48:22] peggysagers:
Again, by rules of pattern making, the fitting dart has to extend to the
bust circle, the bust circle is a circle that is a 2" radius around the
bust point
[6/2/02 21:48:49] peggysagers:
It's ok, but not necessary
[6/2/02 21:49:33] Ann: OK, I thought
it was construction advise, this is still pattern work.
[6/2/02 21:47:55] Rayann: Peggy,
I have several jackets that fit perfectly and are comfortable, but just
the bottom inch of the back of every one appears to cup in slightly under
my rather flat rear. Why?
[6/2/02 21:49:54] peggysagers:
Rayann, look at the side panel and see if it is shaped smaller at the
hem than at the hipline. It is more flattering to shape the bottom of
the jacket to come in a little at the hem
[6/2/02 21:50:55] peggysagers:
Start at the point of the dart, it is the most important, people will
see it, they don't see the end, it is in the seam. The point is more important
to have correct
[6/2/02 21:51:17] WandaJ: What's
the standard " to come in at the hem line?
[6/2/02 21:52:03] Rayann: Yes,
they are all shaped in slightly from the hipline. Does that mean no way
to solve the back cupping, or is that okay?
[6/2/02 21:52:52] peggysagers:
The dart under the lapel is the bust dart, moved up to the corner of the
neck edge, comes down toward the bust, but styled so that it is under
the lapel, so that when the lapel folds back, it cannot be seen.
[6/2/02 21:53:02] Debbie: Peggy
Do I understand that we should start sewing at the dart point and not
at the seam line.
[6/2/02 21:53:31] peggysagers:
Just drop the pattern pieces down straight. or just the back pattern pieces
and then it will not come in
[6/2/02 21:53:44] WandaJ: What
are the most important things that you wuld like to leave with us this
evening?
[6/2/02 21:56:34] Rayann: Peggy,
getting a little off track, but can you say briefly the method you prefer
to transfer information from a sloper to a pattern or fabric?
[6/2/02 21:57:21] Debbie: Please
where should the sleeve hem end on your hand or wrist
[6/2/02 21:58:40] Rayann: Does
your new book include instructions on using slopers? I have one made in
one of your classes but still not totally confident about using it.
[6/2/02 21:56:26] WandaJ: If one
adds a dart under the lapel does that mean that the regualar bust dart
should be eliminated or use both darts?
[6/2/02 22:00:59] pegsagers: The
lapel dart should be the bust dart, should not have both
[6/2/02 22:02:38] WandaJ: Do you
prefer the lapel or bust dart?
[6/2/02 22:04:26] pegsagers: The
lapel dart, you cant' see it
[6/2/02 22:04:54] LindaE: I am
going to go thanks for the great topic good work deepika.. I will check
out the transcript tomorrow
[6/2/02 22:04:56] pegsagers: The
sleeve should just hit the top of your hand if you flip your wrist up
[6/2/02 22:05:24] Deepika: thanks
to peggy for providing such useful information
[6/2/02 22:05:45] pegsagers: I
would like you all to know, don't not do somthing because you are afraid,
just watch for a better way to do it than what you know.
[6/2/02 22:05:52] LindaE: thanks
peggy you are a wealth of information
[6/2/02 22:06:26] Debbie: Thank
You I had always been told it had ot hit the point where my thumb connects
to my hand and that is just toooooo long and feels sloopy
[6/2/02 22:06:31] pegsagers: There
are so many great easy ways of doing things, we just have to keep our
eyes and ears open and I think this patternreview is great.
[6/2/02 22:06:54] WandaJ: Thanks
for the tip regarding getting over the fear of doing something. I understand
the fear of 'cutting and sewing' because fabric is not hair and doesn't
grow back!
[6/2/02 22:07:16] Ann: Thank you
for the info, you always have such great ideas to share. I'll have to
try "reverse dart sewing" on my next garment.
[6/2/02 22:07:44] Carrie: Thanks
so much Peggy. I'm rushing for the Betsy's jacket pattern!
[6/2/02 22:07:48] pegsagers: Good
luck to all of you, I wish you success. Keep sewing, I love it. Thanks
Deepika
[6/2/02 22:08:18] Debbie: Thanks
Peggy I hope you come to Kansas City again
[6/2/02 22:08:46] Rayann: Thanks,
Peggy. You've been great as always. Look forward to getting your new book,
and to next time you're in my area again!
[6/2/02 22:09:26] Debbie: Please
give the name of her new book I was late
[6/2/02 22:12:02] Debbie: Night
all and thanks again for such useful information
[6/2/02 22:12:27] Rayann: The new
book is "Dressed to Kill.. .Gently". See www.silhouettepatterns.com. There's
an order form on there. I just ordered it a couple of days ago. It's $14.95
right now, not sure about in the future. I believe this is a new, updated
version of her "My Very Best Dressed Me".
[6/2/02 22:14:04] WandaJ: Thanks.
As is becoming customary, I enjoyed the Chat and valuable information.
Deepika you are a jewel.
[6/2/02 22:15:28] Deepika: I am
just glad that this chat is helping so many people!
[6/2/02 22:15:47] Ann: Goodnight
all, Deepika, a great job yet again! Thanks ever so much!
[6/2/02 22:16:16] Deepika: if anyone
has any suggestions for future chat topics, e-mail me at support@patternreview.com
[6/2/02 22:16:36] Deepika: good
night everyone. Have a great week!
[6/2/02 22:17:13] Rayann: Deepika,
Even after having the opportunity to take classes from Peggy and others,
it's not always easy to "get" everything, and these chats help. :Thanks
so much.
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